Silah Report Podcast V14: Pakistani Glocks, Improvised 44 Bore ammunition, Old Rifles in Afrin

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What would Glock copies be if there weren’t a KPK-region version? And are these even considered fake or real in the larger Pakistani context? In this episode, Kyber Armoury, Adham, Daniel, Mr. Jenzen-Jones, and Analyst Mick present and take a look at all these topics. We also take questions from Patreon members about such things as radio usage in Syria.

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Contents:

French Rifles for sale in Afrin

Kyber Armoury’s .44 Bore Research

G36KE in Libya

Updates on Glock-Copies in Pakistan

The ‘Baghdad’ Rifle

Hezbollah HS Produkt VHS-1

French Rifles for sale in Afrin

Daniel brought up some information on various variants of French rifles for sale in the vicinity of Afrin, Syria.

Figure 1.1.  Submissions from Mick to Daniel (Source: social media via ARES CONMAT)
Figure 1.2.  A close up of the carbine’s receiver (Source: social media via ARES CONMAT)

Abdullah, via his own Khyber Armory website, has shared this image of headstamps found regionally.  

Figure 2.1. Various cartridges (left to right): 1) PPU – 7.92×33, 2) 31 – 65, 3) 188 – 89, 4) PPU – 7.92×33, 5) POF – 91? – 7.62×51, 6) Barnaul Logo – 7.62×39, 7) 21 – 63, 8) 711 – 78, 9) 04 – 59, 10) POF – 84 – L2A2 (Source: Khyber Armoury)

 

Figure 2.2. Side view of the various cartridges from the KPK Region, (from left to right):
1) 7.92×33, 2) 7.62×39, 3) 7.92×33 Khyber hand-load case, 4) 7.92×33, 5) 7.92×33 Khyber hand-load case, 6) 7.62×39 fired from 44 Bore chamber, 7) 7.62×39 case, 8) 7.62×39, 9) 7.92×33, 10) 7.92×33 Khyber hand-load case. (Source: Khyber Armoury)

G36KE in Libya

Nick Jenzen-Jones mentioned that the .44 Bore had been covered on ARES before in this article by Ian McCollum.

Figure 3.1.  Mick found this photograph recently of a G36KE in Libya with a mounted suppressor. The suppressor appears to be locally craft-produced. Also note the bulpup PKM-variant on the right, also craft-modified (Source: via ARES CONMAT)

Updates on Glock-Copies in Pakistan

Figure 4.1. Khyber shared these photos of a Glock 26-copy he spotted in the KPK Region. (Source: Regional social media via ARES CONMAT)
Figure 4.2. Other side of the ‘Glock’ copy (Source: Regional social media via ARES CONMAT)

‘Baghdad’ Rifle

Images have surfaced of one of the more mysterious and rare rifles of the region, the ‘Baghdad’ self-loading rifle.  The one pictured below was seen in Erbil. One estimate from the owner of Vintage Firearms on Instagram (a Kurdish-based small arms enthusiast) threw out an estimate that less than 2,000 rifles were produced.

Figure 5.1. Close-ups of the markings in an Iraqi gun market. The Arabic translates to an equivalent of the English. (Source: Regional social media via ARES CONMAT)
Figure 5.2.  Close-ups of the markings in an Iraqi gun market. Note 1978 (۱۹۷۸) year marking, and the 107253 (۱۰۷۲۵۳) serial number, way above a 2,000 rifle amount. (Source: Regional social media via ARES CONMAT)
Figure 5.3. An image that Mick found on Social Media sales of a “Baghdad” Rifle being sold. (Source: Regional social media via Analyst Mick)
Figure 5.4. An image that Mick found on Social Media sales of a “Baghdad” Rifle being sold. (Source: Regional social media via Analyst Mick)

These videos display the “Baghdad” rifle which some conclude that it is simply an Egyptian Rasheed that was a Baghdad contract.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHzQdM6j9ms

Hezbollah HS Produkt VHS-1

Figure 6.2. Also brought up by one of our Patreon members was this 5.56x45mm VHS-1 rifle in use by Hezbollah. HS Produkt had a large contract with the Emergency Response Brigade in Iraq. (Source: Regional social media via ARES CONMAT)

 

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